. CALL (OR WRITE/SPEAK TO) PEOPLE
FOR THE
PURPOSE OF INVITING THEM TO YR LOFT FOR A
DIALOGUE.
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[printed in the notebook's
Margin] NOTE: DEFINITION OF "DIALOGUE" REMAINS OPEN. VERBALL GIVES SOME INDICATION.
| April 21, 69-- |
Call Moose (Robt Morris). Leave name & number with his answering service. |
| May 11, 69- |
Call Walter DeMaria. Leave name only with A.S. |
| May 13, 69- |
Call Walter DeMaria. Leave name & number with A.S. |
| May 14, 69- |
Call Jap (Jasper Johns) at Castelli Gallery. Leave name & no. with David White who promises to get message to Jap although Jap is "very busy & in & out of town this week."
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| May 14, 69- |
Call Poonsie (Larry Poons). He answers phone, we make a date for May 21 (Wed), 4 P.M.
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| NOTE: START WRITE UP OF PIECE WHEN YOU HAVE MADE THE FIRST
"CONTACT." SO FAR THE PEOPLE CALLED ARE THOSE WITH WHOM A
DIALOGUE HAS ALREADY BEEN STARTED IN THE "PAST," A DIALOGUE
WHICH MIGHT BE INTERESTING TO "PURSUE."
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| May 16, 69- |
Moose ret'ns call. We make a date for May 17 (Sat), 5 P.M. |
| May 17, 69- |
Moose visits, then we go to his crib, turn on and have a great dialogue, that is, a long intense talk without too much tension during which we exchange many ideas.
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| NOTE:
THE PURPOSE OF THIS PIECE IS TO HAVE A DIALOGUE WITH AS
MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE, NOT TO MAKE A PIECE. ANY PERSONAL
INFORMATION EXCHANGED DURING DIALOGUE WILL BE PROTECTED BY MY CONFIDENCE. IF ANYONE WISHES IDEAS TO BE PASSED ON I SHALL
COMPLY. As much as poss.
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| May 18- |
Call John Giorno, leave name & no. w/ A.S. |
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Call Claus Oldenburg. Speak to Patty who will pass message on to Claus when he gets back to N.Y. in 2 wks.
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Call Yvonne Rainer. We make date for Sun, May 25.
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Call my mother, who is ill. She is having first drug experience & I invite her to have dialogue by long-dist. phone.
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Attend opening of Lucy's show at Paula Cooper's. Speak to at least 13 people who I'll call for a dialogue.
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| May 19, 69- |
John Giorno ret'ns call, will call Wed or Thur.
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Call Heizer to acknowledge rec't of repros, invite him for dialogue, he'll call soon and bring more prints to show me.
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Call Ian Wilson, leave name/no. w/ his wife?
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| " 20, 69- |
David Lee calls from downstairs waking me up & we have a beautiful two hour dialogue (before I even have a chance to take a shit).
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Ian Wilson returns call. After a very unpleasant conversation he refuses to visit. I suggest taking a walk, he refuses and can't wait to get off phone. The conversation yielded an enormous
amount of information, in spite of his being adamant about not believing in "passing information," and some of his questions forced me to think more about what I am doing. He
put his ideas into art mag jargon: "Are you setting up an environment?" He said something about the first "conversation" we had (abt a yr ago, at Longview, thru Lucy's suggesting that he
talk to me), that it made him vomit, or something we talked about concerning art mags which I don't recall. I must now decide what to "do." Note: Mention inviting an animal to I.W. during
this call.
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| May 21- |
No word from Poonsie. Call him at 5:15 P.M. He said (a bit fakely) "Oh this is Wednesday isn't it," that he was "inta sumpthin," could I call next Tues, I said I'd be glad to call next week, and he called me "Dear."
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| May 22- |
John Torreano calls, I invite him over & we have a dialogue on grass he brought. At end he stays too long but then I am so
tired, I would not have been "up" to anything today. It was a good dialogue, very "dense," I clarified some important ideas.
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| DECIDE TO INVITE A CAT & A BABY FOR A DIALOGUE EACH. (May 22, 69)
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| May 23- |
Call Larry Weiner (as I promised at Cooper opening). Make date for visit Mon, May 26, 4 P.M.
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| May 24- |
Kaltenbach comes at last for our first ÒofficialÓ dialogue. We trade a lot of our art ideas & discuss doing a piece together
when he returns from Cal. (He leaves on June 3 for teaching job).
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| May 24, 69 |
When I call Claire Copley to apologize for abrupt departure last night from La Monte's I invite her & we make date for Wed, May 28, after 7 P.M.
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| " 25 |
Call Yvonne around 2 P.M., no answer. Again later (to be correct) at 6:15. No answer.
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| "25 |
Call David Diau, he'll call very soon for a visit.
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| " 25 |
Call Alan Saret, he will come tonight at 9:00. Later: it was very sluggish dialogue but I learn more than can be expressed verbally
from Alan (a lot abt his no-scene), and about this time & place in history. Also realize I have no floor-pad for stoned guests stretching.
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| " 26 |
Larry Weiner & I have a "fast-paced" dialogue. He seems to behave as though to let the other person talk is to let the other person win. The "element" missing from this dialogue which happened to be present in all the previous dialogues was love.
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| " 28 |
Claire Copley mostly talks during dialogue, is interested in learning, she said. |
| " 30 |
Dan Graham & I have important dialogue in that definite changes were immediately effected because of it.
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| June 2, 69- |
Call Poons, leave name & no. w/ A.S.
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Call Brice, make date for June 3 (Tue), 8:30. Will Brice Marden bring his old lady I wonder?
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| " 3 |
No Brice doesnÕt come with Helen & we discuss Òthe Revolution,Ó Brice talking almost entirely abt shitty business practices in the art world, & shitty treatment of artists by each other.
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| " 4 |
Larry Stafford who is in bldg to visit Ray Siemanowski knocks on my door & we have spontaneous dialogue, much abt gallery & dealer pitfalls.
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| " 5 & 6 |
Alan Saret returns both these nights & we continue dialogue. More later re this.
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| " 6 |
Vogels visit, we have long "dialogue."
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| " 7 |
Serra comes over a little high on beer & no food. Just into a dialogue with him (we've been smoking Saret's hash) when he gets an attack (too stoned), falls off chair to floor with a crash, has "convulsions" & passes out, later he feels sick, lies down on bed until Saret comes over.
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| " 9 |
Call more people for dialogue. From now on I won't enter these calls in Piece but only dialogues per se, & calls when they are relevant.
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| " 10 |
Meet with Dick Anderson. We walk to 8th st. bkstores & return to his loft for rest of "dialogue." He talks continuously.
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| June 16, 69 |
Gary Bower comes for dialogue at 3:00 P.M. & leaves at 9:00 P.M. It was engaging almost the whole time.
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| " 17 |
Gary Stevens talks abt his job at mental hosp. & other interesting subjects but I sense something (resistance, tension)? which keeps him at a distance. Perhaps he was just uncomfortable?
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| "18 |
Send following postcard to Walter DeMaria: "The reason I called you twice to which you have not been gracious enough to reply was to invite you for a dialogue. Love, Lozano." [Walter replies by letter before he leaves town for summer. July.]
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| " 23 |
Felix Roth comes for a "dialogue," laying on me all the problems of the middle class including operations.
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| " 24 |
Jake (neighbor, 2 lofts bldgs east of mine) unexpectedly drops dialogue including stock market info & drug info.
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| " 30 |
I receive a visit from Romy McDonald & her friend Margo who were given my name in England by Tim Head. Pass info.
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July 9, 69 | Jason Crum comes & is interesting but we do not have dialogue.
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" 9 | Arthur Berman comes & is not very interesting but we do not have dialogue (see July 17).
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" 10 | Kass Zapkus & I have terrific dialogue, much abt art workers coalition, but then our dialogues have always been good & are mellow by now.
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" 11 | Start dialogue with Hugo the Cat, who will live here for a while while his owners (neighbors Bill & Charlotte Sayler) are out of town. He mauls my arm as a start but the dialogue progresses slightly to a good fighting dialogue. One wkend is all I can take with Hugo.
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" 15 | Bob Hout comes. We have rather stiff formal exchange. I try an abrupt move to wake him up.
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" 16 | Bob (Smitty) Smithson arrives early. It is a matter of discomfort I think. But I get a lot of info out. (He wants my info.)
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" 17 | Arthur Berman brings Doc Hughes. Doc does his rapp & then goes to sleep. Have better talk with Arthur.
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" 24 | Receive a visit from Phyllis Rosen & Portia Harcus, who have galleries in Boston. We talk a lot & I learn a lot, it was a good dialogue (trialogue). Abt 3 hrs, maybe more.
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" 26 | Weston Naef has his own info but also allows himself to be drenched by my info. 4 hrs.
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" 28 | Marcia Tucker stays 3 hrs, asks good questions, intense if somewhat gossipish dialogue, but she enjoys the play. Dialogue meaning.
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| Aug 1, 69 |
Mike Shore & I were falling asleep from boredom with "conversation" so I suggested we go out & we ran around doing errands & stopping in stores, especially the bicycle store in E. Village.
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| Aug 8, 69 |
Kent Cunow. Told a great "How I got my 1.Y. rating" story.
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| Aug 19, 69 |
Jim Harithas is as modern & interesting as ever - we have very good dialogue. Info from the world of museums, trustees & "political heavies."
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| Aug 26, 69- |
Larry Stafford ret'ns.
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| Sept 2- |
David Lee ret'ns. Contrast with his visit May 20, 69.
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| Sept 10- |
Jerry Kastner comes back to pick up dope. This visit was slightly better than last time he came to see me.
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| Sept 10- |
Ted Castle. For some reason, I no longer get turned on by his ideas, but he wasn't relaxed.
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| Sept 11- |
David Levin, faggot, ex-Andover, stays 6 hrs, honest talk.
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| Sept 19- |
Jillen Lowe comes to see wk (she's a double Leo).
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| Sept 20- |
Ted Castle ret'ns once more for a brief visit.
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| Sept 21- |
James Lee Bryars stretches out on bed for entire dialogue enjoying window view, bourbon, grass, etc.
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| Sept 22- |
Jillen Lowe ret'ns bringing Baron & Baroness John & Helen Von Echt (both rich, young, beautiful & a lot of fun). For a change a pleasurable exchange with collectors.
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| Sept 29- |
Jillen Lowe brings Jeff Paley. This was more of a trialogue. Jeff Paley was more interest (ed) than (ing).
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| Oct 1- |
Clement Meadmore brings the Englishwoman Jennifer A. Towndrow for a brief, packed dialogue betw. them & my work. She's with Studio Vista publ., London.
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| Oct 1- |
Keith Sonnier & I on some previous visits he made here had more fun talking than we did today, but it was okay.
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| Oct 8- |
Billy Bryant Copley & I has a good dialogue today as any previously & we didn't even turn on till the end.
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| Oct 12- |
Miles Frost hasn't been here for a long time but unfortunately I was too tired to be enthusiastic.
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| Oct 14- |
Gregorie Muller & Whee Kim come unannounced (from Paris) given my name by Bellamy. Dan Graham happened to be here & he & I both dumped our own info in them. Gregorie says I am the only artist enthusiastic abt N.Y.C.
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| Oct 16- |
Max Hutchinson from Australia invites me to join gallery he's opening here but I tell him at present I don't want to join any gallery. Dialogue mostly about galleries. Jolly Max.
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| Oct 16- |
Miles Frost & I have a much better talk, a lot about teaching.
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| Oct 22- |
Have one of the best dialogues I've had in a long time: Murray Hochman.
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| Oct 27, 69 |
Mac Dody (from Whitney Mus.) doesn't get turned on by abstract painting but sure digs my comix. That's all right. Belts two bourbons for his trip to the suburbs.
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| Nov 1, 69 |
Larry Stafford retns & we are both more relaxed & have more fun.
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| Nov 7, 69- |
Rolfe Ricke brings friend Hans, from Germany.
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| Nov 8- |
Amanda (Mackie?) from Wheaton College visits as a result of the colloquium there on Nov. 6. She is bright & sophisticated, pretty, family lives in N.Y.C. (16th & Ave. A?). We have very good talk especially towards end. She has her own grass & we get smashed on it. Her (male) family picks her up (her mother calls when she is here).
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| Nov 10- |
Alan Bayman (Baiman?) who was sent by Jillen Lowe is very draggy, from Brooklyn (but not Jewish, but I never know who is & who isn't).
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| Nov 11- |
Connie Bower visits to pick drawings for "Art Resources Center of the Whitney Museum of American Art" (Nov 22-Dec 6, 185 Cherry St. near Manhattan Bridge & South St).
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| Nov 11- |
Brief dialogue with Jerry "Walker" to whom I give some acid (instead of ass. As Kaltenbach said). Pick up from St. Adrian's.
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| Nov 16- |
Kass-Kes Zapkus brings over Mr & Mrs Frankel. The Frankels, from Chicago, to turn them on. They get high just fine, offer me money which I refuse telling them I'm insulted that they offered, & we part sugarly.
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| Nov 17- |
Cindy Nemser. Aries. I like Aries women, they're not sentimental. The big Brooklyn rebellion.
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| Nov 18- |
Larry Frifeld (sp?) drops in, good talk.
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| Nov 19- |
George ("Dick") Bellamy comes again, slightly less hard work than last time he was here, enigma at end (both very high), inscrutable as sometimes before.
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| Nov 20, 69- |
Finally a group dialogue, Gary Bower brings kids from Arts Resources Center of Whitney Mus. for a terrific experience for me. About 18 kids. Talk mostly to a boy* who's going back to his farm in Mich., said he's the only one who's not staying in N.Y.C. of his group. Said mine of all their symposiums so far was most "disorderly," the least "strict." *Bill Goers.
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| Nov 28, 69- |
Dr & Mrs Milton Brutton from Philadelphia. Dr Brutten, a child psychologist, wanted to talk about art & I wanted to talk abt psychology, which seems like the conditions favorable to a good dialogue.
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| Dec 4, 69- |
Fred Gutzeit & I have instant good Scorpio communication.
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| Dec 5, 69- |
Agnes Denes tells me abt Dialectic Triangulation, her do-it-yrself philosophy.
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| Dec 5, 69- |
Eric, a student, comes by with Kaltenbach & the dialogue is mostly non-verbal.
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| Dec 8, 69- |
Ed Shostak, an old friend, gives a very generous & high-info dialogue which I enjoyed.
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| Dec 12, 69- |
Gary Bower ret'ns for a 7-hr dialogue this time. I thank him for letting me get out so many ideas.
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| Dec 13, 69- |
Lefty (Sebastian) Adler & I were just getting into a dialogue when Bob Stanley who brought him drags him away.
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| Dec 18, 69- |
Dine at Ed & Cindy Feldman's where the most exquisite dialogue takes place.
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